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illy [Shrimple-mode] protomoji_orange_flag_lesbian @illyBytes@shrimp.imsofucking.gay
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nvm codeberg's stance is to only remove shit coins and from defnull's interpretation, crypto projects that dont harm codeberg's reputation arent banned lol
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@illyBytes ahh good thing to that

it is dumb though that whats written down and the actual stance are so different
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illy [Shrimple-mode] protomoji_orange_flag_lesbian @illyBytes@shrimp.imsofucking.gay
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@hsza literally wildly different
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@illyBytes vibe policy
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illy [Shrimple-mode] protomoji_orange_flag_lesbian @illyBytes@shrimp.imsofucking.gay
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@hsza real
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@illyBytes this one rembers being told by a mastocel in a discussion of this kinda thing that "oh its a different legal model, see in germany they act on the intention behind the legislation, not the precise words!!" but that makes no sense

for one thats cancerously neurotypicalese but also if everything is vague and up to interpretation by default then you can just interpret the rules however the fuck you want then do whatever the fuck you want

which is the same as not having any rules at all
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Li ~ Crystal System @Li@tech.lgbt
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@hsza @illyBytes its not the same as having no rules, no rules means you can do what you want, its the same as having someone just be able to just decide what your doing breaks some 'rule' that they just made up or whatever,
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@Li @illyBytes well, basically no rules where their purpose is to keep power in check

anyone subject to that power then has "rules" that are more so unwritten whims... cant really be classified as proper rules

hence, no rules, just a hiearchy
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Li ~ Crystal System @Li@tech.lgbt
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@hsza @illyBytes hm .. hierachy is itself a kind of rule, its just the rule is 'do what whoever above you says' ..
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@Li @illyBytes yes ^^
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Elizabeth therian cascadia @Elizafox@treehouse.systems
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@hsza @illyBytes judges interpret law in the US too

It’s generally a judicial function

Yes, judges sometimes make arbitrary nonsensical rulings

The neurotypical world is not okay
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Elizabeth therian cascadia @Elizafox@treehouse.systems
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@hsza @illyBytes example: the US constitution clearly says in the 4th amendment search and seizure without a warrant is unconstitutional

But border patrol has been ruled to have the right to search your device if you are 100 miles from the border

They rarely do this unless you’re suspected of being here illegally, but it’s possible and fully allowed

The courts just… ruled it was fine… like 10 years back
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@Elizafox @illyBytes "the constitution is so important guys!!1! stand up for the flag!!!" "anyway we decided we'll be ignoring the constitution here and here and here"
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@Elizafox @illyBytes the US is especially not okay
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illy [Shrimple-mode] protomoji_orange_flag_lesbian @illyBytes@shrimp.imsofucking.gay
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@hsza @Elizafox i think having vague as shit laws with like 5 trillion ways to interpret them is what leads a nation into fascism lol
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illy [Shrimple-mode] protomoji_orange_flag_lesbian @illyBytes@shrimp.imsofucking.gay
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@Elizafox @hsza that n nations being a concept
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@illyBytes @Elizafox yeah thats a big part of it, checks and balances matter not when they can all be trivially bypassed

but it is also inherent to power structures that have grown beyond the personal scale. theyre unable to properly represent the population, thus unstable, and eventually self-destructive
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Elizabeth therian cascadia @Elizafox@treehouse.systems
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@hsza @illyBytes that’s the core of dialectical materialism and the whole thing behind Marx

The problem is that whilst empires crumble they don’t always get replaced with something better

See also: Imperial Rome, the American Revolution, the Russian Revolution (things didn’t really change much for the lower class farmers).
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@Elizafox @illyBytes at some point society could draw the right conclusions from this and start working toward a coordinated transition away from having empires whatsoever
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Elizabeth therian cascadia @Elizafox@treehouse.systems
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@hsza @illyBytes Germany has all sorts of awful laws too.

Beleidigung laws are on the books, it’s illegal to insult someone, cops use this against people constantly.

They also require you put an impressum on your website, with your real name, a physical mailing address, and contact details.

There is an entire cottage industry of lawyers who send legal demand letters over missing or defective impressums.

German law is fucked up too. :P
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wrathful zivirkari @hsza@social.tudbut.de
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@Elizafox @illyBytes what the fuck

germany had mandatory dox urself laws this whole time
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